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Future of The Wiki Project, aka Comixpedia Dot Org

We're coming up on the two year anniversary of starting the wiki-based webcomic encyclopedia (hosted at comixpedia dot org). It's a useful site that by design will always cover much more ground about webcomics than Wikipedia. Other sites in the webcomic-o-sphere can reuse it's content b/c of its GNUFDL approach to copyright (The webcomic bookmarking site, Piperka, for example includes links to Comixpedia.org entries in its directory).

What it needs now, however, is enthusiastic and committed leadership dedicated to maintaining this project and helping to develop a more active community around it. After thinking about it a lot this year I know I'm not the person to do that. Realistically, I don't have the time for it (I struggle to carve out just the time spent here at comixpedia.com).

So I'm in need of a plan for the future of the webcomic wiki. A future without my direct involvement. What I'm potentially offering to a person or an entity is my assistance in transferring the backend of the current site to a new host, the url comixpedia.org and/or the name Comixpedia.

It needs to be a plan that I think has a reasonable chance of success in terms of people, organization and resources. I don't know what that plan is right now, but I hope to blast this post far and wide enough online to get some interest going in coming up with a workable plan. So, ahem, feel free to repost this message elsewhere...

If you want to participate in this discussion or better yet, pitch a plan, comment here or email me at xerexes at comixpedia dot com. Thanks!

Re: Future of The Wiki Project, aka Comixpedia Dot Org

What exactly do you have in mind?For my part ,i think that focusing on webcomics alone,it's too narrow, i think that the scope should be expanded,in order to atracked a community of healthy size(shift to comics-encyclopedia and not webcomics-encyclopedia).

In english wikipedia there was an absurd shift in the policy about fair use image,that very likely will result in almost 100% deletion of thies images,in some other languages,it already happened (german,french...).The notability critiria are needlessly hie ,there is an experimental hard disk of 100TB,and wikipedia complains about notability, on purely ideological grounds.Also a big rant of mine,it's that wikipedia isn't managed corectly,very underegulated ,i'm not talking about hosting and software(this is the minor part),i'm talking about the users.For this last point,doing beter then wikipedia is trivial.

I'm saying this ,to show that theirs a good chance that a redefined project like that will be able to compete with wikipedia's ,comic section.

I don't know if by "a plan that I think has a reasonable chance of success in terms of people, organization and resources." you meant something like that.(if you complain,i remind you that the url is comixpedia.org)

Hmmm....

glych's picture

If people want to get more involved as editors, they could crawl through the current comic listings and seek out dead links, make each entry uniform with characters, external links, etc. find images, request info and images from comic creators, etc.

Too busy, myself. But an idea.

-glych

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has the mantle been passed?

Tony Esteves's picture

With the current database error- is the wiki on the move?

-tony

-tony

Ah.. no

Xaviar Xerexes's picture

It indicates a db blurch... :(

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Xaviar Xerexes

On second thought, let's not go to Comixpedia. It is a silly place.

I run this place! Tip the piano player on the way out.

I'm interested

Me. I'm interested in taking over the wiki.

I don't understand

Nima's picture

I'm a bit confused. Part of the appeal of Wiki's is that they don't really require a single source to be directly involved -- the community takes care of that. So what direct involvement is required for it?

If you mean, however, that you simply don't want the hosting burden then that's a different thing. Is that what you mean?

 



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What The Wiki Needs (Brief Answer)

Xaviar Xerexes's picture

I'd say (and I have almost two years experience at this now) the notion that wiki don't need support and resources is a myth.

Sure the nature of a wiki is that it's open to anyone to contribute to and that's a big part of why comixpedia.org is a cool idea but all by itself that's not enough to sustain this.

Hosting in and of itself isn't a burden these day - I'm not doing this primarily to get comixpedia.org off of my server (although that is part of this).

Take Wikipedia as a good example - there's hosting but there's also a foundation that "owns" the site and ultimately is responsible for the content of the site. There's admin folks there working on keeping the back-end of the site up and the mediawiki code current. There's a tremendous cadre of editors there that help with keeping the site going.

Comixpedia is a much smaller project than Wikipedia but it needs a leader(s) to inspire a community of folks using it and improving it. Someone(s) to help resolve policy issues at the site and come up with ideas for its future. It needs someone(s) to make sure it's up and problems are solved and that it's on the current version of the mediawiki software that runs it. The webcomic wiki, like all projects, needs people invested in making it succeed - otherwise it'll wither and die.

Sure I could just throw the whole thing on some kind of public hosting (like wikia.com maybe) and hope it sorts itself out somehow, but I don't think that's the most optimal plan at this point in time...

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Xaviar Xerexes

On second thought, let's not go to Comixpedia. It is a silly place.

I run this place! Tip the piano player on the way out.

Aaahhh

Nima's picture

I see what you're saying now. There needs to be someone to bring the community together around the wiki. I guess I sort of take for granted the whole community building part of it. Shows how much I know. :)


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Url issues

What I'm potentially offering to a person or an entity is my assistance in transferring the backend of the current site to a new host, the url comixpedia.org and/or the name Comixpedia.
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the url setup changed. Newcomers could find it a bit odd and confusing that "comixpedia.com" points to a news-and-commentary site while "comixpedia.org" goes to a quite different-looking wiki site. I'd be tempted to make "comixpedia.com" the url for the wiki and find another name for the magazine site, but that might cause too much confusion with existing links.

URL Issues and Separating the Brands

Xaviar Xerexes's picture

First off - I'm never going to give up comixpedia.com so that's not up for discussion. However, I am considering changing the name of this site and it's primary URL to "Comix Talk" (comixtalk.com) and if the wiki was successfully transferred to someone who wanted to use the Comixpedia name and dot org URL I would definitely go ahead with the rebranding of this site. I think that would help address this issue pretty well actually.

The reason I think the wiki would be better off sticking with comixpedia.org is that people have been using that URL for it for almost two years now and so there are a lot of links to it with that URL out there now. Just my 2 cents on that question.

 

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Xaviar Xerexes

On second thought, let's not go to Comixpedia. It is a silly place.

I run this place! Tip the piano player on the way out.