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A Superhero Summer

A lot of superhero movies this summer - the latest being the Will Smith one, Hancock. What do you think - which ones so far were good and which ones bombed?

Bamkapow.com has two lists of superheros worth checking out and arguing over:  The "10 Manliest Superheroes" and the "15 Greatest Black Superheroes".

 

Re: A Superhero Summer

CyberLord's picture

El Santo, I do agree that "Spider-man" gave us the human side of super heroes.  That's why my wife liked it.  She was interested in Peters relationship with Mary Jane.  The rest was just gravy to her.  She did not understand Peters fear for what might happen to Mary Jane and that's what soured her on "Spider-man" after the second movie.

I'm not surprised that Tony Stark is more interesting than Iron Man.  That's what several people at work told me after watching the movie.  But isn't that what Marvel really innovated.  Let me put it this way, I once read a comment about the difference between Marvel and DC phrased something like this:

Superman is Clark Kent.  Batman is Bruce Wayne.  Peter Parker is Spider-man.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how well "The Dark Knight" does at the box-office.  I have a little theory that has served me well for decades.  If a movie is released between Memorial Day and the Fourth of July, then the studios believe it will do well.  If a movie is released AFTER the Fourth of July, and increasingly so the closer to August you get, then the movie did poorly in audience tests.  Movies in August just plain suck or are for a limited audience.  That's why you get a lot of horror stuff and unfunny teen comedies in August.

Releasing "The Dark Knight" fourteen days after the Fourth of July does not bode well.

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort but where he stands at times of challenge and discovery. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.---------CyberLord

Re: A Superhero Summer

El Santo's picture

I'm with you on "The Dark Knight," Cyberlord.  Nothing about the previews actually wants to make me go out and watch it.  It just seems so dour.  Ledger's take on The Joker doesn't jive with any of my notions of the character at all.  Rather, it's like they slapped make-up on a modern day "realistic" villain and said, "There you go!  That's the Joker."

That said I had quite the opposite effect: my girlfriend was trying to drag me in to watch "The Incredible Hulk," and I was very hesitant to see it.  But she's a huge Edward Norton fan, so there you go.

And yeah, we're hitting a superhero saturation point.  It reminds me of the first superhero/comic book boom in the early 90's: remember Dick Tracy, The Shadow, The Mask, the Batman sequels, and lesser known stuff like Mystery Men, The Phantom, and Meteor Man?   The current trend is less Hollywood's lack of ideas, though, than Avi Arad's aggressive push to get every Marvel property a movie and the typical studio reaction to latch onto whatever's hot.  Like that not-far-off past when asteroid movies and animated movies about anthropomorphic bugs were all the rage.

However, I think there's been a big shake-up in the formula.  Back when "Batman" kicked of the craze in 1989, the formula was set in stone: one hero, one villain per movie, one new love interest per movie.  Sort of the James Bond formula, when you think of it.  This year's current crop seems to be focusing in to the human aspect.  Tony Stark is far more interesting than his Iron Man counterpart, while Bruce Wayne from the "Batman Begins" movie was the first time the millionaire playboy portion of the dual identity was played correctly in years.  I guess we'd have to credit the Spider-Man movies, where the Peter Parker persona was played up considerably.

Anyway, Iron Man gets my vote for best superhero movie this year, and the best one since Spider-Man 2.

 

Re: A Superhero Summer

CyberLord's picture

I saw "Hancock" over the weekend.  It was OK.  My son loved it, but he hasn't read comics for decades as I have.  There was little new in "Hancock" that I have not already seen in a comic.

I saw a preview of "The Dark Knight".  I have no interest in it for reasons stated earlier.  My wife looked at it and said "we can wait to see this on Showtime".  That was a little hint to me.  She had a lot of interest in superhero movies after Spider-man.  It died quickly after "Spider-man" 2.  It's like pulling teeth to get her to go to the theatre to watch a super hero movie with me now.  This whole super hero movie thing may hit saturation soon.

It's not just Stoopid Heroes making the jump to the silver screen.  There are a LOT of comics making the transition.  Does Hollywood have any ideas anymore?  Maybe comics have become analogous to the Minor League in baseball.  That would explain a lot of what I see in modern printed comics.

I have not been to ComicCon since the 1970s.  Starz had a documentary about super heroes from the comics moving to the silver screen.  They made ComicCon seem more like a Hollywood event than a comic event.  Is this true?

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort but where he stands at times of challenge and discovery. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.---------CyberLord