A statement, stand up for you freedoms

Malach's picture

Most of you are familiar with what is going on with the political cartoons that are being protested by the Muslim community. I have no problem with protest, I do have problems with threats, killings, and property desctrucion. I am not Muslim, your Muslim dogmatic rules do not apply to me. I have freedom of speech.

I propose this. If you agree with this, take these cartoons:
http://www.rubbersuitstudios.com/ptmcartoons.htm
post them on any webspace you have!

We will not be bullied!

Malach's picture

A statement, stand up for you freedoms

Most of you are familiar with what is going on with the political cartoons that are being protested by the Muslim community. I have no problem with protest, I do have problems with threats, killings, and property desctrucion. I am not Muslim, your Muslim dogmatic rules do not apply to me. I have freedom of speech.

I propose this. If you agree with this, take these cartoons:
http://www.rubbersuitstudios.com/ptmcartoons.htm
post them on any webspace you have!

We will not be bullied!

Ghastly's picture

Better yet, since the claim is "you're violating our religious tennants against graven images" and not "you're making us uncomfortable by exposing the power our reactionary, violent fringe holds over our religion" why not expose the rich tradition in Islamic culture for depicting the prophet in art.

Like all great religions Islam certainly seems to have embraced the philosophy of "do as we say, not as we do".

timtylor's picture

Exercising my freedom of speech here... When some guy's up the belltower with a My First Bazooka and a box of Cold War surplus suicide pills, you probably won't get him down by yelling "You're a 4%$oo& idiot!" It'd be free speech, and accurate, but not productive except of holes.

Ghastly's picture

I actually know a person living here in Hamilton who has an honest to Allah fatwa on his head. He fled from Pakistan to Canada because he dared to write a book saying that although the west certainly hasn't helped out a lot most of the middle east's woes are caused by the middle east. Blaming the west, blaming the US, blaming the Jews and blaming the Christians is just the way for Arab Muslims to protect their pride.

It boils down to the Arab world not being able to deal with the fact that they're no longer the military, technological, and culturally elite empire they once were and instead of trying to examine what went wrong and how they need to evolve to live in a modern world they're throwing a hissy fit, blaming everyone but themselves and trying to convince as many progressive Muslims as they can to join them in their holy temper-tantrum.

They worst thing is they're doing a damned good job of it. Everytime the US bombs or shoots someone in the middle east another progressive Muslim sympathises with the angry, hate filled old men and women in the Middle East who are turning their children into improvised explosive devices.

Aleph's picture

Good idea, reinforce the idea being sold to them by Fallwell-like clerics that the West doesn't care about their feelings, has great hostility towards them, and is incapable of respecting the truth.

I already asked for a reality check in the other article here on the topic.

The Muslim community said that every rock thrown, every fire started, was an insult to the Muslim community. They wanted their Christian brothers to know that. The violence is not the Muslim response and doing more to degrade/mock Muslims is not going to spit in the eye of anybody but the people trying to be peaceful about this and keep faith in the idea that others are capable of understanding.

As for the inherent hypocrisy of religious institutions, try out the fact that Christian assholes delivered death threats over removing a statue of the Ten Commandments from government property. Just to clarify, we are talking about a GRAVEN IMAGE of tenets demanding you not make GRAVEN IMAGES. All religious institutions are inherently hypocritical in some way. Do we really have to go out of our way to make Muslims feel like we are incapable of seeing them as people, rather than making them into stereotypes of their very worst elements?

Besides, whether or not you can depict Mohammed depends on sect.

Should I go on a crusade against all Christians because they have a prayer hit-squad assigned to the Supreme Court? Should I treat them all like they're incestuous drunken ATF targets or greasy con-men? Make all the cartoons about anything you want but what the hell are you trying to do by trying to create a pervasive crusade to keep tearing open this wound while at the same time trying to viral-market your aptly titled stool sample site? We will not be intimidated? It seems like we are being intimidated-- into acting like idiots to prove we're not scared.

rezo's picture

Re: A statement, stand up for you freedoms

[quote:a88075febf="Malach"] I have no problem with protest, I do have problems with threats, killings, and property desctrucion.

I think your standing up to the possibility that you might be bullied will surely put a stop to all of those things.

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