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Blarg! workin in a vacuum

Well, after nearly 45-50 strips, and a FrightNight 2003 submission I am still getting little or no traffic for my strip Boundary Waters. Could I get someone to give my site a look-see and let me know if my lack of visiblity is due to inadequate promotion, or because it sucks. And if it is due to crappy promotion, if somebody has some pointers I would appreciate it because I seem to be getting nowhere with getting some exposure.

Http://stubbscomics.com

Thanks
stubbs

Bryan Prindiville's picture

heh heh, yah know I actually kind of like it. Some of your off days are definitely off but thats why you're doing it online now, to work the bugs out. And I like the quirkyness of the robot and ogre (?)... admittedly I haven't read the whole deal I just worked backwards for a while.

Ok, here's the question: Have you tried advertising or getting your strip on non-comic related sites or lists? There is a whole realm of different kinds of communities out there that would love this stuff. They don't know its out there. And if they do they go to one of the list with sooo many and they get overwhelmed.

I've been working at this since January, sure thats not a long time but its long enough for me to learn that my first attempt was a bomb. I had fun doing it for a while but no one was reading it. When I started Bassetville I went for a couple months with the same results. Well, I got the word out about the site on a Basset Hound list serve and in the first 5 days of November I had more viewers than I had for the entire month of September. And they've stuck around.

Sure, realtively speaking my site is probably still small potatos but I got what I wanted. People to read it (that I don't know).

-bry

Al Schroeder's picture

Um....well...
I get the giant guy is a transformed-guy-into-a-frog, but at first I thought the armor was a robot. What IS that? A possessed suit of armor? A very skinny knight who never comes out?
If it's a fantasy, a character who looks like a robot doesn't help.
If it's science fiction, a guy transformed into a giant frog doesn't help.
I like the coloring, which helps, (compare to your early strips) and the art has become much better....
In all honesty, the humor isn't overwhelming. Not bad, just not overhwelming--yet. Early GOATS and SLUGGY weren't either. It's certainly not up to the levels of SINFEST or SOMETHING POSITIVE yet.
Work on your characters, work on your punchlines, and it might be a real interesting strip. Also, go to a lot of forums, put the URL in your sig, and see what happens.---Al

 Al Schroeder III of MINDMISTRESS---think the superhero genre is mined out? Think there are no new superhero ideas? Think again.

Al Schroeder's picture

Right. I had an advantage at the beginning, because I had an on-line journal with a large readership, and continually plugged it there. And as they mentioned, I post in a lot of forums, comic and non-comic, and always include the url in the sig. Not telling you to post just to get yourself noticed---but if you have an interesting comment in something you're genuinely interested in, they'll often check out your sig, and there you are!
And don't be discouraged about the negative comment about Keenspace (and I'm not disputing it--*Grin*)---LCD is on Keenspace, Venus Envy is on Keenspace, Nine Swords is on Keenspace, Twelve Dragons is on Keenspace, Killroy and Tina and Coolville/Intershadows used to be on Keenspace. Yeah, there's a lot of crap out there, but you can still make your mark....
If your stuff is good.
(Note the url in my sig.)---Al

 Al Schroeder III of MINDMISTRESS---think the superhero genre is mined out? Think there are no new superhero ideas? Think again.

Blarg! workin in a vacuum

Well, after nearly 45-50 strips, and a FrightNight 2003 submission I am still getting little or no traffic for my strip Boundary Waters. Could I get someone to give my site a look-see and let me know if my lack of visiblity is due to inadequate promotion, or because it sucks. And if it is due to crappy promotion, if somebody has some pointers I would appreciate it because I seem to be getting nowhere with getting some exposure.

Http://stubbscomics.com

Thanks
stubbs

As for forums . . . I'm leaning toward nightstar zoo myself. A couple of artists I respect are there, and they seem to have relatively little downtime. The question that I wrestle with is if I'm READY for a forum? I mean, no one even uses my feedback form, so I don't know if a forum woulod get used. And other threads have taken up the question of how depressing a dead forum can be.

Problem- You're on Keenspace. The place where webcomics go to be ignored. I don't know if they still promise they'll promote you, but hehehe... yeah right.

Solution 1- Pimp yourself like everyone here suggests.

Solution 2- Be patient. It takes a while to get noticed.

Solution 3- Be happy with the viewers you have. We all can't be Penny Arcade.

Thanks for your excellent suggestions- At some point I was going to define the characters through a backstory piece, but I wanted the characters to become a little more defined on a day to day basis first.

As far as forums go- do you have any suggestions. The Comixpedia site is nicly focused, but I do not know of others beyond the keenspace one which I cannot get on and cannot get ahold of any administrators for it either (ah life on keenspace).

stubbs
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http://stubbscomics.com
home of Boundary Waters

Thanks for the input, but I'm actually more interested in similar sites to comicpedia, I have no desire to run a forum at this point- I have hardly any time to produce the comic right now , much less be an administrator. I'm more interested in floating throungh some interesting discusions on the topic. I have visited Talk About Comics over at modern tales which seems to be very active, and have been to the keenspace forums (though I cannot participate thanks to the razzen frazzen software flame ups and an inability to actually communicate with anyone without using the forums- a textbook catch 22 situation.) I'm really just trying to see what is out there- I had kept running into comic book sites, but I have little or no interest in what Marvel is shipping or why some fanboy thinks the latest Batman crossover sucks.

Your artwork is nice. Your writing was a little weak at first but improved at about the time you switched to color. The title confused me a bit; I was expecting people doing doofy stuff with canoes and was really confused by the frog, the princess, the monkey and the robot. Maybe naming the strip for the Island they all live on would help. That way people won't go there looking for people doing doofy stuff with canoes and then click away when there are none.

As for promotion, my strip's not much older than yours, and I host it myself (although I do have a dead keenspace account I've never had the patience to make work -- I ended up writing my own automation scripts). Doing fan art for strips whose readership might overlap yours helps. Making a discreet plug for your comic part of the signature on the forums you visit might help. I discover more webcomics through people's signatures than any other way. And don't expect too much, it takes a while for a strip to become really viable. My weekly's been up since August and I think I've got three regular readers. But I think that number has grown a little in the past month or so.