Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro?
Submitted by DaDoc on February 22, 2004 - 18:30
This has probably been asked before, but which one is better for webcomics? What are the pros and cons of each? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Submitted by DaDoc on February 22, 2004 - 18:30
This has probably been asked before, but which one is better for webcomics? What are the pros and cons of each? Thanks in advance for your help.
Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro?
by DaDoc - 02/22/2004 - 18:30
This has probably been asked before, but which one is better for webcomics? What are the pros and cons of each? Thanks in advance for your help.
by CaptainSpam - 02/22/2004 - 21:42
Don't ask me, I prefer Gimp. :-) Free. Moderately complicated.
by Anonymous - 02/22/2004 - 21:54
photoshop, if you can get your hands on it. I have a pirated version, and don't feel bad about it. when i have enough money, I'll buy the full version. Plus, there's a REASON it's the industry standard.
But, I suppose if you have morals, or don't have a friend who has a copy, paint shop pro is just as good. I prefer the real thing.
--Frodo
onlinecomic.net
by cyb3rllama - 02/22/2004 - 22:58
I started the latest version (2004) of episode one of my comic using both Painter 8 and Photoshop. I haven't used Paint Shop Pro, but from my experience Photoshop pretty much blows everything else out of the water.
I've see a lot of great stuff done with Painter 8, but I found it clunky and buggy compared to Photoshop.
by Anonymous - 02/23/2004 - 00:03
I've used Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro and Paint Shop Pro blows photoshop out of the water. It has a better text editor and allows you to freely mix Vector and Bitmap layers in a single project. It has powerful vector-editing tools, and is actually more comfortable to work with from an artistic standpoint.
by richardf8 - 02/23/2004 - 00:05
The above guest post is mine.
by Uncle Ghastly - 02/23/2004 - 01:24
You are on day 986 of your 30 day free trial.
Paintshop Pro is okay, but I like Painter Classic for all my colouring needs.
by richardf8 - 02/23/2004 - 16:15
[quote:25bf8e176e="Ghastly"]You are on day 986 of your 30 day free trial.
Actually, my copy is all boughten and everything, complete with yummy manuals and bonus features and an actual CD.
by Anonymous - 02/23/2004 - 18:33
I have a bought and paid for version of Corel Draw here that I've never even installed on my machine yet. It's probably a pretty old version by now. My brother bought it when he bought this computer and after he upgraded he gave them both to me.
by Uncle Ghastly - 02/23/2004 - 18:35
That was me again, btw. I seemed to have somehow logged off.
by Anonymous - 03/15/2004 - 01:36
Here's a few Bill Facts-
1) Bill has never paid for software.
2) Bill always uses Photoshop because of it's ability to do anything you want.
3) But, Bill is currently using Gimp 2.0 because of the whole Linux thing on the computer he's using.
4) Gimp is Photoshop 4.
5) Bill is so amazing, he's been able to work around the stiff, "Guess where it is" nature of Gimp.
by Uncle Ghastly - 03/15/2004 - 04:09
6) Bill gets killed by Uma Thurman.
by hard - 03/15/2004 - 18:59
I use a combination of programs for my comic. I used to use strictly GIMP. It's free, and it can do all the basic things you want in a graphics program. I don't even find the menus that complicated -- it's a different system than what many people are used to, but it's nice that you can use a graphics system that doesn't monopolize your desktop (though it will monopolize your task bar).
I recently started colouring with Painter 8, and I like that program better for colouring. FOr backgrounds, speed lines, tones and other comic book effects I use ComicStudio2.0EX. CSEX2 is an awesome program but mainly for use with print comics.... it doesn't have any colour functions, but like all decent programs it does export into photoshop format. Though I don't use Photoshop for much, I use the format as an intermediary for GIMP, Painter, and CSEX2.
One note -- all my graphics programs are store-bought items. I think that if you make some money off your work -- even just a little -- you owe it to the creators of the programs you are dependent on to have a legal version. If you have GIMP, no worries.
by Uncle Ghastly - 03/15/2004 - 23:51
Nearly every piece of software I've got is something that was bundled with something else I bought. Bought my scanner, got free graphic software. Bought my printer, got more free graphic software. Bought my tablet, you guessed it more free graphics software.
Some of them really suck, some of them are quite good. Painter Classic is the software I use for just about all my graphic needs.
The stuff I haven't bought is either freeware/shareware or a whack of software that used to belong to my brother that he gave to me when he gave me his old computer (which I am still using to this day, poor ol' PII-333).
Sometimes too I'll buy discounted, discontinued software. There was a version of Painter 6 I saw in a bargain bin not long ago that I was going to buy but didn't have the cash at the time. When I got back to the store it was gone.
by Anonymous - 03/16/2004 - 00:42
Phhht
Next you guys will be telling me you should pay for MP3s
by Uncle Ghastly - 03/16/2004 - 01:16
Hehehe. My band calls our songs "M P Frees".
Crap, I used to leave my machine hooked up to a fileshare 24/7 just to allow people to download my own MPFrees.
I could never figure out why I'd get over 100 people each day downloading an MP3 of me singing the entire "99 Bottles Of Beer On The Wall" (accoustic and techno versions). But hey, who am I to judge.
I guess it's like the versions of free software I get with the crap I buy. The makers of Painter hoped that by giving me Painter Classic (which is really just an old version of Painter) for free with my tablet, it would entice me to go out and buy the current version of the software.
Of course, as I already mentioned. There's a reason why most of my software is freeware or other "included free with purchase" software. My machine is too ancient and craptacular to run the modern versions of these programs.
by Cerulean - 03/20/2004 - 13:03
I swear by Paint Shop Pro 5. I think it's more intuitive to use than Photoshop, and I knew Photoshop when I first tried Paint Shop Pro. It's also very good at color depth reduction.
I'm glad I bought the disc, because without it, after trying PSP 7, I wouldn't have been able to wipe it and get my PSP 5 back. I don't like it when raster programs try to be vector programs. Don't turn every new line I draw into its own layer; if I want a separate layer, I'll make one.
by Anonymous - 03/20/2004 - 21:16
[quote:3b7b990a65="William Beckerson"]Next you guys will be telling me you should pay for MP3s
There's an outright hypocrisy that occurs when artists want to be paid/given credit for their work but use stolen programs in the creation of their work. Mind you, it doesn't help that Photoshop is too expensive for anything BUT professional use.
by rniedojadlo - 03/20/2004 - 23:12
Adobe Illustrator.
I know it's not one of the choices, but I find it very easy to digitally ink my comics in this app.
I typically only use PhotoShop to resize and save my comics as GIFs...and for the occassional coloring.
by Anonymous - 03/22/2004 - 21:49
The two major things Paint Shop Pro does well that Photoshop balks at are vector objects (like speech balloons), and the manipulation of text. I have both programs. I made my template in Photoshop and lay out all strips in Paint Shop. If I had to keep only one program, it would DEFINITELY be Paint Shop.
by bgregory - 04/08/2004 - 02:02
[quote:59df97f085="Anonymous"]The two major things Paint Shop Pro does well that Photoshop balks at are vector objects (like speech balloons), and the manipulation of text.
Text and vectors may be the only two things that Photoshop is lousy at. I'd recommend sticking to Photoshop for the coloring though and then pull your bitmaps into Macromedia Fireworks for the lettering and ballooning. Fireworks does a fantastic job with text and vectors and its export to the web functions, IMHO, make for crisper gifs, smoother jpgs, and often smaller files than does Photoshop.
by William Beckerson - 04/08/2004 - 21:54
I have had no problems making text and balloons since Photoshop 6 came out. It works fine for that.
And vector graphics is for sissy boys who cant handle a pen and jar of ink LIKE REAL MEN!
by Justinpie - 04/08/2004 - 23:13
I use ANSI exclusively.
The Non-Adventures of Wonderella
by William Beckerson - 04/09/2004 - 00:04
I use my teeth to carve my comics into a rock and then I bash 'em into the monitor until the internet takes 'em
by Uncle Ghastly - 04/09/2004 - 14:47
Oh, man... ANSI. Boy does that bring back the memories of local dial-up BBSs and FIDONET.
Even better than ANSI was PETASCII, the character set for the Comodore 8-bit computers. I actually remember doing some comic strips in PETASCII in my college computer lab on a Comodore PET. Good times. Good times. The extended character set on the Comodore 8-bits had to be the best extended characterset ever. Using the C-64 where you had colour to work with you could really create some amazing graphics entirely out of PETASCII. I remember writing a program for the C-64 that would let you draw images with PETASCII graphics and then save them so you could run them as a slide show.
by Anonymous - 06/12/2004 - 19:12
Photoshop rocks. Beside, it is an industy standard. If you can get your hand. That good. It expensive. I mange to get Photoshop 7.0. However I use it to cc. I knew it can do a lot more than that. Just get photoshop if you have the money to burn.