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Dealing with artist envy

When you saw an art or read a story and began to feel envious or jealous towards the creators behind it, how do you overcome that nasty feeling? That envy inside you?

Dealing with artist envy

When you saw an art or read a story and began to feel envious or jealous towards the creators behind it, how do you overcome that nasty feeling? That envy inside you?

Work towards getting as good or better than said artist(s).

s'always worked for me in the past.

I call them hacks and flame their forums ;)

Uncle Ghastly's picture

I bang their wives when they're out of town at a convention.

I just get over it and realize that everyone has their own individual talents :P.

~Liriel

Write to them nicely and get to know them.

If they're nasty people, your feelings are justified.

Otherwise, if they are nice people, the feeling magically disappears :)

Uncle Ghastly's picture

And while you're writing to them... find out if they have a hot wife.

And if you're the hot wife of a webtoonist? Carry a very large antique gun. They don't know it doesn't work.

Hey, works for me!

Store it all up inside! Pack it up in a tiny ball of seething discontent.

Cry a lot. (Metaphorically speaking--I find a pained grunt is usually sufficient.)

Then vow to do better.

Never hurts to contact the person and tell them you're impressed, too--that way if they're nice people, you can pick their brain for useful tidbits, and if they're assholes, you can tell yourself that they may be better, but at least YOU'RE not such a raving jerk.

But really, when it comes down to it, seething envy and silent wishes of death is the sincerest form of flattery, right?

Uncle Ghastly's picture

[quote:aa189ae856="Justinpie"]Store it all up inside! Pack it up in a tiny ball of seething discontent.

Ouch, I don't think I'd want to store a large antique gun all up inside. Tiny ball of seething discontent my ass!

:shock:

I have every reason to be jealous, if not for the art, at least because the creators' stories have a lot of potential that should be explored.

Like Megatokyo, for example. It's not my place to suggest stuff to Fred Gallagher, but I always felt it's missing something. Like they should have sumo wrestlers, irritateable expats from hell (like William Beckerson), Piro testing his manhood by challenging a tsunami, Christopher Walken, James Woods & Lewis Black making appearances, Piro's worried parents, Japanese equivalents of rednecks, Osaka mob, a Brooklyn-accented fairy to offset Sera, that oh so cute adversary of hers and that damn squirrel etc. I tried suggesting this on the boards, but them posters are so fucking anal, I can't even catch a wind!

There are other stuff I'm envied about, just because the stories don't go where I expected.

Yessir my life is sad.

BTW, should I tell you who I envy?

[quote:e501c7cc04="Rebelsun"]BTW, should I tell you who I envy?

It's all good, Rebelsun. I know I'm awesome. You can envy me. 8)

My envy problem is this: It seems that just about everyone of you (by you, I refer collectively to every single comic, nay, every website on the whole internet) has about a kagillion hits per second while my website has the popularity of a black widow spider.

Man, was that a clever metaphor.

Erik Melander's picture

I go for the "cry yourself to sleep wishing you had their talent while plotting to suck it out of their heads with brainslugs from Alpha Centauri" myself.
Whats that? Practice you say?
I'll just wait for the brainslugs to be discovered, thank you very much.

I steal their idea and become famous off it.

Won't hurt to have another webcomic about two Americans stuck in Japan?

Uncle Ghastly's picture

WAI!

See what you do is this... kidnap the artist being envied and make a suit from their flesh. Then you continue to draw their comic as you would, destroying any popularity they once had. Continue as needed.

[quote:07eb4c0bcd="Rebelsun"]Won't hurt to have another webcomic about two Americans stuck in Japan?

You know, somebody else pointed out that storylines like Megatokyo would be impossible, as the Japan government wouldn't keep illegal migrants on their territory. If Piro and Largo need to go back home, all they need to do is look for the american embassy.

Now why don't you be really original and write a story about two brazilians stuck in Japan? Our japanese descendants have green card to work on Japan, and I heard some really scary stories about some of them stuck there because the agencies supposed to take care of their paperwork simply stole their money and disappeared.

[quote:276714ad57="RPin"]You know, somebody else pointed out that storylines like Megatokyo would be impossible, as the Japan government wouldn't keep illegal migrants on their territory. If Piro and Largo need to go back home, all they need to do is look for the american embassy.

*whistles*

;)

Make one about a Japanese guy in Japan.

Or a Japanese guy stuck in America -- w00t~!

~Liriel

Or some random guy, locked in his own bathroom. Might as well...

Okay, enough of that. Let's get back to topic.

Make one about a Chinese man pretending to be a Japanese man while juggling a career and three kids.

lol!

Don't forget the wacky roomate guy who adds that special "are those dudes gay?" subtext to the story line!

but to deal with artist envy? hmmm...yeah, i get it a lot. i even went through art school to no success! i still can't draw too well. i turned to my other skill...thievery! i just steal other people's family photos and draw over them. does that make me a bad person?

[quote:36ecbe5e08="RPin"]I heard some really scary stories about some of them stuck there because the agencies supposed to take care of their paperwork simply stole their money and disappeared.
Sounds like Korea

And I never get that feeling because the glow of brilliance from my comics blinds me to inferior works

Actually, if you'll pardon some really banal thoughts, envy is a good thing. Jealousy is where you like something someone else has and covet it and take it for your own, aka kidnapping the artist. Envy is that admiration of something someone else has and wishing to obtain it for yourself legit ways. So jealousy - stealing another man's wife, Envy - getting your own wife.

So I deal with envy by getting better at my own art. Then people get envious of me and I draw them monkeys.

-Meaghan

Al Schroeder's picture

I cope with it by asking them to do an Alternative Page for my comic like the ones seen here at http://mindmistress.keenspace.com/mmalt.htm---so my readers get to see different versions of the same page.
Wouldn't it be great to read an X-Men where you could just click and see the same page as done by Jack Kirby---Dave Cockrum---John Byrne---Alex Ross---Adam Kubert---or whomever? It's one thing print comics CAN'T do, but we can.
So I turn that artist envy into an opportunity.---Al

 Al Schroeder III of MINDMISTRESS---think the superhero genre is mined out? Think there are no new superhero ideas? Think again.

I hop in my time machine, travel back to their infancy, and seek them in their crib to give them a vigorous shaking.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've an appointment with the Mr. and Mrs. McCloud.

Uncle Ghastly's picture

Even better, go back in time, fuck their mom and become their father.

That'll teach 'em!

If you're going to all the trouble of going back in time, you might as well be creative!

Joey Manley's picture

I make them an offer they can't refuse. Except that some of them do.

Joey
www.moderntales.com

Uncle Ghastly's picture

So that's why I woke up this morning with a whore's head in my bed.

Best.trip.to Vegas.EVAR!

Your equine prostitute exploits in Vegas disturb me slightly.

I mean, hell, dude. If Hamilton's gotten as bad as you suggest, why leave home?

Anyhow. I respond to artist envy by dropping into fits of severe depression and lethargy. Oh, no, wait, that's just chronic illness.

Uncle Ghastly's picture

Our hookers are horribly unattractive in Hamilton.

You should see Napanee's.

It's what they say, keep your hookers close, keep other people's spouses closer.

What are we talking about again?

I just sit there, squinting at my sketchpad/notepad/napkin/arm, before ripping the hell out of it..

Well. I wash my arm off.

And then I cuss like nuts. ;D

I see it as something to work towards to-- Something to try and do. I'm a decent artist, but my problem is lack of motivation.

Yech.

[quote:2f5e30d8e3="Lillithnia"]. I'm a decent artist, but my problem is lack of motivation.

That sounds just like me! Except for the first part.

That last post woulda been me.

No, it was me, you liar.

Obviously, Michael_Harker and boinky33 cope through multiple personality disorder.

Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

Stop staring at me...

I can't help it. You're so beautiful.

Depends if I admire the artist of not.
More often than not I admire a person's success, rather than their work. There are a few exceptions to this, like how I feel about Penny-Arcade.

...and I deal with a tub of Ben & Jerry's and Sleepless in Seattle.

The trick is to find out where the people you're envious of live and drive back and forth in front of it in a solid gold rocket car full of supermodels.