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Dealing with artist envy

When you saw an art or read a story and began to feel envious or jealous towards the creators behind it, how do you overcome that nasty feeling? That envy inside you?

John Troutman's picture

And.... that was me. Stupid Comixpedia boards!

When I feel really envious of someone else's work, I usually just go outside for a while. There will always be people who draw much better, so no need to sweat it.

Plus, outside is fun. It's summer now!

Joey Manley's picture

I make them an offer they can't refuse. Except that some of them do.

Joey
www.moderntales.com

I rarely get envious of anyone else's work. Don't get me wrong, I still see people whose work is light years beyond my own, but I do the same thing that I do with people whose work is on par with mine (but maybe do one or two things that I'd like to incorporate into my own work): I talk to them about their craft. About technique. About approach. And influences.

Just delving into the overall process of how they do what they do.

Sometimes I learn some things that I can apply in my own work. Other times, I just get a vastly different perspective than my own. Regardless, it's always an interesting experience.

That's really what it's about, right? Improving our craft.

--Steve

[quote:7a80a0565a="Justinpie"]Steve, you're an absolute maven at what you do! Whose work could be light years ahead of you?

Well, thanks, Justin. But let's be honest (no false modesty here), there are tons of artists who just blow me away:

Al Williamson, Wally Wood, Mark Schultz, Dave Stevens, Frank Frazetta, Roy Krenkle, Steranko, Steve Rude, Paul Gulacy, Alex Toth, Mike Mignola, Darwyn Cooke, Butch Guice, Adam Hughes, Frank Cho, Gary Gianni, Mark A. Nelson, Tim Bradstreet, Alex Ross, J. Scott Campbell, Phil Noto, Art Adams, Geoff Darrow, Bernie Wrightson, Mike Kaluta, Russ Manning, Jack Kirby, Jerry Ordway, Hal Foster, Alex Raymond, George Evans, John Prentice, Neal Adams... Those are just some of the comics guys off the top of my head.

With time to think, the list grows.

Factor in illustrators and the list gets even bigger.

But thanks for the kind words!

--Steve

"Maven?" Does that mean I run a brothel? Oh, no, sorry, that's "madam." My bad.

Store it all up inside! Pack it up in a tiny ball of seething discontent.

[quote:54f86b104a="SteveBryant"]I rarely get envious of anyone else's work. Don't get me wrong, I still see people whose work is light years beyond my own, but I do the same thing that I do with people whose work is on par with mine (but maybe do one or two things that I'd like to incorporate into my own work): I talk to them about their craft. About technique. About approach. And influences.

Steve, you're an absolute maven at what you do! Whose work could be light years ahead of you?

[quote:6c70886a9f="SteveBryant"]"Maven?" Does that mean I run a brothel? Oh, no, sorry, that's "madam." My bad.

I think he's saying you won "Tough Enough" and got a role in the WWE.

And if you're the hot wife of a webtoonist? Carry a very large antique gun. They don't know it doesn't work.

Hey, works for me!

Actually, if you'll pardon some really banal thoughts, envy is a good thing. Jealousy is where you like something someone else has and covet it and take it for your own, aka kidnapping the artist. Envy is that admiration of something someone else has and wishing to obtain it for yourself legit ways. So jealousy - stealing another man's wife, Envy - getting your own wife.

So I deal with envy by getting better at my own art. Then people get envious of me and I draw them monkeys.

-Meaghan

If you're going to all the trouble of going back in time, you might as well be creative!

I think I'd quit if there was no one better than me. Not because I'm motivated by competition, but because my ego would swell so large at the constant thought that no one was better than I and would crush whatever planet I was living on at the time. Or I'd just be a jerk, and I'd be a jerk and quit.

And I'll never, ever be as good as I want to be. I keep getting better and my idea of what's good keeps getting better, too.

Al Schroeder's picture

I cope with it by asking them to do an Alternative Page for my comic like the ones seen here at http://mindmistress.keenspace.com/mmalt.htm---so my readers get to see different versions of the same page.
Wouldn't it be great to read an X-Men where you could just click and see the same page as done by Jack Kirby---Dave Cockrum---John Byrne---Alex Ross---Adam Kubert---or whomever? It's one thing print comics CAN'T do, but we can.
So I turn that artist envy into an opportunity.---Al

 Al Schroeder III of MINDMISTRESS---think the superhero genre is mined out? Think there are no new superhero ideas? Think again.

apfurtado's picture

Quote:

That's really what it's about, right? Improving our craft.

Yep, it sure is. :D

Your equine prostitute exploits in Vegas disturb me slightly.

I mean, hell, dude. If Hamilton's gotten as bad as you suggest, why leave home?

Anyhow. I respond to artist envy by dropping into fits of severe depression and lethargy. Oh, no, wait, that's just chronic illness.

I hop in my time machine, travel back to their infancy, and seek them in their crib to give them a vigorous shaking.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've an appointment with the Mr. and Mrs. McCloud.

I steal their idea and become famous off it.

Make one about a Japanese guy in Japan.

Make one about a Chinese man pretending to be a Japanese man while juggling a career and three kids.

You should see Napanee's.

No, it was me, you liar.

I can't help it. You're so beautiful.

The above post was from me. How the heck did I get logged in as Al?

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See what you do is this... kidnap the artist being envied and make a suit from their flesh. Then you continue to draw their comic as you would, destroying any popularity they once had. Continue as needed.

Or some random guy, locked in his own bathroom. Might as well...

Obviously, Michael_Harker and boinky33 cope through multiple personality disorder.

Can't beat a good swift lead pipe to the knees. Gets 'em every time.

Erik Melander's picture

I go for the "cry yourself to sleep wishing you had their talent while plotting to suck it out of their heads with brainslugs from Alpha Centauri" myself.
Whats that? Practice you say?
I'll just wait for the brainslugs to be discovered, thank you very much.

Uncle Ghastly's picture

I bang their wives when they're out of town at a convention.

Uncle Ghastly's picture

And while you're writing to them... find out if they have a hot wife.

Uncle Ghastly's picture

[quote:aa189ae856="Justinpie"]Store it all up inside! Pack it up in a tiny ball of seething discontent.

Ouch, I don't think I'd want to store a large antique gun all up inside. Tiny ball of seething discontent my ass!

:shock:

Uncle Ghastly's picture

WAI!

Uncle Ghastly's picture

Even better, go back in time, fuck their mom and become their father.

That'll teach 'em!

Uncle Ghastly's picture

So that's why I woke up this morning with a whore's head in my bed.

Best.trip.to Vegas.EVAR!

Uncle Ghastly's picture

Our hookers are horribly unattractive in Hamilton.

Uncle Ghastly's picture

I still say sleeping with their wife when they're off at a convention is the best sollution.

"I get twice as many visits a day as you do. Neener neener!"

"Yeah, well your wife dressed up like a nun for me and called me 'Daddy'. Neener neener!"

This way there's something in it for everyone.

My envy problem is this: It seems that just about everyone of you (by you, I refer collectively to every single comic, nay, every website on the whole internet) has about a kagillion hits per second while my website has the popularity of a black widow spider.

Man, was that a clever metaphor.

That last post woulda been me.

Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

Stop staring at me...

I call them hacks and flame their forums ;)

[quote:e501c7cc04="Rebelsun"]BTW, should I tell you who I envy?

It's all good, Rebelsun. I know I'm awesome. You can envy me. 8)

[quote:07eb4c0bcd="Rebelsun"]Won't hurt to have another webcomic about two Americans stuck in Japan?

You know, somebody else pointed out that storylines like Megatokyo would be impossible, as the Japan government wouldn't keep illegal migrants on their territory. If Piro and Largo need to go back home, all they need to do is look for the american embassy.

Now why don't you be really original and write a story about two brazilians stuck in Japan? Our japanese descendants have green card to work on Japan, and I heard some really scary stories about some of them stuck there because the agencies supposed to take care of their paperwork simply stole their money and disappeared.

;)

The keys are close to each other, I suppose.

Write to them nicely and get to know them.

If they're nasty people, your feelings are justified.

Otherwise, if they are nice people, the feeling magically disappears :)

[quote:276714ad57="RPin"]You know, somebody else pointed out that storylines like Megatokyo would be impossible, as the Japan government wouldn't keep illegal migrants on their territory. If Piro and Largo need to go back home, all they need to do is look for the american embassy.

*whistles*

I just get over it and realize that everyone has their own individual talents :P.

~Liriel

Or a Japanese guy stuck in America -- w00t~!

~Liriel

Dealing with artist envy

When you saw an art or read a story and began to feel envious or jealous towards the creators behind it, how do you overcome that nasty feeling? That envy inside you?

Won't hurt to have another webcomic about two Americans stuck in Japan?