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Nipples and webcomics

It is a question that must be discussed. It is a question that I dread to ask yet I had to ask. It is a subject every men & women need to know:

Why aren't there (women's) nipples in most webcomics? I notice that most webcomics made in North America are quite shy of showing them, heck even in the most self-proclaimed "mature" or "extreme" webcomics.

Far more common than bras or pasties designed to give you the erect nipple look are bras designed to PREVENT the natural occurance. It was a big sell for most women when I was in the business of selling bras. It's distracting, and most women don't want that. Granted, I got to see a lot of breasts and nipples in a totally professional way, so these women who want control over their nipple-age also had no problem letting me hang around them for fitting purposes. Most of these bra wearing types would consider letting any sign of nippleage through clothing very tacky, not sexy or natural.

As for drawing it, I guage whether its appropriate by how much detail the artist gives to other parts of the body. If you're not drawing TOES on bare feet, don't draw nipples. If you're drawing a belly button, you'd better draw them.

But I agree with Josh L, just as women want control over whether they show them or not, the artist has control as well. If drawing them looks tacky or gives off the wrong impression, the artist can do whatever he or she wants to not draw them.

What bugs me are sex scenes with sheets draped oh so cleverly over the couple. If you're not going to show anything, do it with camera angles or cropping, not with a SHEET. Comics are not daytime soaps.

I draw nipples whenever I draw somebody without a shirt.

I long for the day when I can do that without somebody on the forums going "SILTH BOOBS!" but whatever. ;)

I've never stated that any of my comics were kid friendly or work friendly. So if a story called for showing bare boobage, I'd do it. As yet that hasn't happened but that's mostly due to that fact that I'm horrible at drawing people.

I guess you could manage if you were a couple of love making ninjas. Get in. Get out. Vanish with no one the wiser. I don't know how much fun that'd be though.

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I frequently have nipples in my comic. They're fun to draw, even if they're clothed.

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One of my biggest pet peeves in webcomics is the "conveniently placed prop/scenery/speech balloon" cliche that people use to cover up nudity, particularily nipples. I find it demeaning not only to the reader but also to the human body. Now I can't say I wouldn't use the cliche if the cliche was the joke, but using the cliche as the joke has pretty much become cliche in and of itself.

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[quote:4b14544a3e="William G"]Most women dont walk around with erect nipples poking through their shirts all of the time? Just a guess.

Did you know they sell bra inserts for women who don't get erect nipples that will let them appear to have erect nipples all the time.

What an age to be alive.

Of course I don't have that problem myself. As anyone who has ever seen me in a T-shirt can attest to, my nipples are permanently erect and perky. Seems like such a waste on a guy if you ask me but that's just the way they are. Always have been and probably always will be.

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In the winter time I can cut glass with mine.

Oh, and most annoying non-nipple cliche has got to be the "woman's hair hangs down and covers the nipples" one. I can forgive it if the woman is standing perfectly still on a windless day, but when they show her running around and her hair still manages to fall over the breasts I have to call shinanigans.

I find it very sad that some people still perpetuate the idea that male nipples are a-okay but females should be ashamed of their nipples because they're dirty amd sinful.

There are no anatomical differences between the male breast and the female breast. Given the right hormones in the bloodstreme men are equally as capable of lactation as women are. Television and magazines will bombard us with images of topless males but show the exact same features on the female body and then it suddenly becomes dirty and sinful.

I'm glad Ontario finally wised up and declared that any laws that forbid only women from going topless are unconstitutional and discriminatory (despite what is commonly believed the courts did not rule that going topless is legal, only that communities can make their own standards reguarding toplessness but they have to be applied equally to males and females).

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Now that's being insulting to them men as well as the women.

:lol:

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Oh, and Josh. Are you still going to do Dave Kelly? Because if you're not going to do him, there are some other people waiting in line to do him.

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Incidently, a friend of mine started using a new avatar today that made me laugh my freaking ass off because it made me think of this BBS thread.

It's a pity Hitler was such a prick because the Nazis had such great fetish wear.

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Yeah, you've got to be pretty sad in the love making department if you're able to do it without disturbing the sheets.

Hell, even during the cold Canadian winters the blankets are only on during the opening salvos. By the time we're finished the sheets are on the floor and we've cracked a window open to get some cool air in the room.

But then again, as we all well know, Canadians are natural love making machines, baby!

right on brotha

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[quote:65a0c53c54="Ghastly"]It's a pity Hitler was such a prick because the Nazis had such great fetish wear.

Seems to me there's a misappreciation of causality there. Like saying, "It's a pity people have to spend so many hours a day bringing in income because it takes away from shopping time."

Nipples are for nibbling :twisted:

~Liriel
(nsfw)

Nipples and webcomics

It is a question that must be discussed. It is a question that I dread to ask yet I had to ask. It is a subject every men & women need to know:

Why aren't there (women's) nipples in most webcomics? I notice that most webcomics made in North America are quite shy of showing them, heck even in the most self-proclaimed "mature" or "extreme" webcomics.

LOL!

Any more takers?

sex sex sex...is that all erect nipples mean? i think we're forgetting a very important interpretation of the visual language. while yes, hard nipples might shout "i want sex" could they not also say "turn off the AC?"

[quote:0c833be597="Ghastly"]

I find it very sad that some people still perpetuate the idea that male nipples are a-okay but females should be ashamed of their nipples because they're dirty amd sinful.

i for one think male nipples are definately not a-okay...ewww :wink:

also, i think it's going to be seriously difficult to desexualize the female nipple. we were making headway for awhile. i mean, i certainly didn't get all hot and heavy when i saw them on ER's bleeding patients. but then janet jackson and her peek-a-boob set us back a few decades. it'll happen, just not anytime soon...and definately not with a certain assclown in the whitehouse. (oops! sorry...didn't mean to get political!)

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I notice that most webcomics made in North America are quite shy of showing them

well it's the whole "you can show a woman getting her heart ripped out of her chest, and its fine as long as you don't see her nipples" double standard here in the USA, violence is fine but sex is bad. but on the other hand from what i've heard of europe they simply have the opposite double standard (sex is fine violence is bad).

so perhaps people are still worried about old taboos, maybe it's just force of habit, perhaps they are trying to make their comics "work-safe" so that their readers can safely slack off and enjoy the comics without worrying about someone looking into their cubicle and thinking that they are looking at porn, or perhaps they enjoy drawing in public areas and don't wish to be labeled a pervert by the people around them (i don't know how realistic those last one are, but it's possible...)

Yeah, I though erect nipples meant it was cold, like showing your breath.

@_@

gah!

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Gah! Sorry, the post above was mine, didn't realise I was logged out.

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Re: Nipples and webcomics

[quote:6903892049="Rebelsun"]It is a question that must be discussed. It is a question that I dread to ask yet I had to ask. It is a subject every men & women need to know:

Why aren't there (women's) nipples in most webcomics? I notice that most webcomics made in North America are quite shy of showing them, heck even in the most self-proclaimed "mature" or "extreme" webcomics.

Well right now I'm writing a script on a mature comic and, despite my artist's wishes to NOT draw anything sexual (nude nipple is fine), I don't see a real need to have it in my story. If I see it as an importent scene that won't ruin the theme or pace of the story, I'll do it. Problem with most mature comics is they add nudity just to show how 'badass' they are, when in reality, they are just relying on shock value.

So would I add it without a problem? Sure, why not. I don't see why people are afraid. Will I add it to my webcomic? Only if it adds to the storyline, which I think it doesn't.

I dunno, I practically have to threaten Crash with dire bodily harm to KEEP him from drawing every character nude all the time. But we do it mainly because we do have a young(ish) audience, and I'd rather it not get TOO hot and heavy.

Still, there's PLENTY of nipples in the Cheshire-Grin archive. NIPPLE HUNTERS! Go THERE! :-P

Hmm...my comic's about eleven year old kids...I don't think it'd be wise for me to draw nipples...

Although I added them to the boys in one panel in the pool, but that was with colour...

Nah...better stay clear of them in most cases here...

Most women dont walk around with erect nipples poking through their shirts all of the time? Just a guess.

I may be off base with this, but I think most authors create each comic with a specific reaction in mind (laughter, surprise, horror, sadness, etc). Female nipples, for whatever reason, create certain reactions in most people. If these aren't the reactions that the author intends for the strip to produce, then it would be detrimental to put them in. At least that's how it seems to me.

-Aaron Farber

Well, it may be because of the power of symbolism in comics. Erect nipples are such a strong symbol for sex, that if you are drawing a panel where that isn't the central theme, they may be a distraction or lead to a misundertanding. Of course if you are drawing sex, then why the hell shouldn't you draw them (and any other part of the male and female body, at that).

[quote:72f8eeb2e0="Ghastly"]
Of course I don't have that problem myself. As anyone who has ever seen me in a T-shirt can attest to, my nipples are permanently erect and perky. Seems like such a waste on a guy if you ask me but that's just the way they are. Always have been and probably always will be.
A great place to hang pictures of the kids.

- eric m.

Ehhh... say what you will, but generally, the sight of female nipples evokes lust among us guys (and quite a few girls as well). And Aaron said it well... sometimes we don't want feelings of lust distracting the reader from the true purpose of the comic. So if there's a scene which calls for nudity, and covering the tingly bits with ludicrously well-placed hair and other objects is what it takes to prevent such distractions, then so be it.

josh l. (who forgot his password)