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The MegaTokyo controversy

I thought this was perhaps a bit too gossipy to submit as news, but I found it quite interesting and am sure other did/will too.
Apparently Scott Kurtz made a well wish for Rodney Caston, former co-author of MegaTokyo, who became a dad recently (perhaps that is more of a news item?).The original post is gone, but Kurtz describes it as "I announced that Rodney and his wife were having a kid, and then I made a crack that this was one baby, Fred couldn't steal from Rodney."
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Fred is Fred "Piro" Gallagher of MegaTokyo fame obviously. This promted Fred to respond with a rebuttal including his own version of how his and Caston's cooperation ended. Which in turn also promted Caston to tell his view of events. Add to this a lot of flaming by the fans on different message boards.

Kurtz withdrew his remark, adding that it had been inteded as a joke and Gallagher also posted a clarification of his post.

I find the entire thing quite interesting even though I dont read MegaTokyo since about a year (I started before Caston left though and have become less interested the more "Shoujo" it became). The interest lies partly in that it was a collaboration that ended and the problems that arose from that with the intellectuall property. But also that it appears that many of the fans were wondering (still after almost two years) about the details of the split. And, at least as I remember it, the story at the time of the split was somewhat different from the one that emerges now.

The MegaTokyo controversy

Erik Melander's picture

I thought this was perhaps a bit too gossipy to submit as news, but I found it quite interesting and am sure other did/will too.
Apparently Scott Kurtz made a well wish for Rodney Caston, former co-author of MegaTokyo, who became a dad recently (perhaps that is more of a news item?).The original post is gone, but Kurtz describes it as "I announced that Rodney and his wife were having a kid, and then I made a crack that this was one baby, Fred couldn't steal from Rodney."
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Fred is Fred "Piro" Gallagher of MegaTokyo fame obviously. This promted Fred to respond with a rebuttal including his own version of how his and Caston's cooperation ended. Which in turn also promted Caston to tell his view of events. Add to this a lot of flaming by the fans on different message boards.

Kurtz withdrew his remark, adding that it had been inteded as a joke and Gallagher also posted a clarification of his post.

I find the entire thing quite interesting even though I dont read MegaTokyo since about a year (I started before Caston left though and have become less interested the more "Shoujo" it became). The interest lies partly in that it was a collaboration that ended and the problems that arose from that with the intellectuall property. But also that it appears that many of the fans were wondering (still after almost two years) about the details of the split. And, at least as I remember it, the story at the time of the split was somewhat different from the one that emerges now.

RE: The MegaTokyo controversy

If you ask me, all this rigamarole is more interesting than Megatokyo itself. :)

That's why I insist on IP pre-nups with my collaborations :)

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[quote:79d1019609="KrazyKrow"]That's why I insist on IP pre-nups with my collaborations :)

That sounds interesting. It might be instructive for the rest of us if you have a model agreement you could show us.

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Oh joy! Oh bliss! Webcomic drama!

Is there anything online more amusing than webcomic drama? If there is I don't want to know about it. By golly this sent a shiver up the sphincter.

Wether Rodney got screwed and exploited out of MegaTokyo or not is irrelevant. There's absolutely nothing stopping Rodney from creating any sort of webcomic he wants. Nothing but Rodney himself or a complete lack of desire. Since Rodney enjoys the benefit of being none other than Rodney Caston, co-creator of MegaTokyo, he'll enjoy instant attention for any future webcomic he creates. No starting at the bottom of Keenspace for him. No sir. No geocities crap-fest for Rodney. No-siree-bob. He'll have an instant audience and instant webcomic celebrity for anything he decides to create in the future.

Actually, he already HAS a comic. And it sucks. I don't see why people praise him for his humor so much... I never really found it that great. In my eyes MT has improved allot since he left. But then, I LIKE shoujo. :)[/url]

Awwwwwwwww cunt!

And I had such a good post going to. Is this really a comic Rodney works on? I'd never heard of it before. You'd think that any comic Rodney worked on after MegaTokyo would instantly have internet celebrity status just based on the fact that he's Rodney Caston.

Son of a ding-dong-diddly-doo! I have pwned myself.

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Crap, and somehow logged myself out too.

Scarfman: In my case, I have another artist working with characters that I created before, so it basically says "everything belongs to Krazy Krow." That probably wouldn't fly if two people were collborating on both story and art.

Every contract in the business world has a clause for ending the relationship, and I think at least an informal agreement would be a good idea for a comic.

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Oh, you've got a new artist working on your comic now? I was wondering why the artwork suddenly changed so much.

^_^

Webcomic creator soap operas are never all that sexy are they?

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By golly, I'll have you know that I'm too sexy for my shirt.



Work with me! Work with me! Gimme pouty. Pouty! Yeah, now you're a kitten. Rar!

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D'oh! Double post edit super harmony elimination magic sparkle blast!

Ghastly: Yep! I've always wanted to do more of a traditional comic book approach, and my art just wasn't good enough to pull it off. I'm still drawing regular Krakow though.

BTW, a sexy pic like that deserves a double post.

I daresay my loins are enflamed and tingling, like a freshly baked onion.

This is like hearing about Z-Grade rapper wars.

Nice nipples Ghastly.

Yow! Suddenly this place turned into the Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Erotica.Swollen-nubbins newsgroup!

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More like alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.oldguy.topless

Popped my head in today to check out the drama. Dear sweet mother of god. Whatever past sins you may have committed Rodney, I now declair them absolved for the simple fact that this drama has provided me with much merriment and amusement.

It's like watching a Fox Special When Fanboys Attack.

I didn't know Fred Gallagher had an affair when he was at a convention. Then again I didn't care. But hey, who can blame him. I've seen the lineups at his table at the cons. What was once merely the vicarious expression of his inner fantasies is now a reality. Hot underage teenage girls lust after him. To make things even more golden, when he was at the con in Canada he got to enjoy the fact that legal age in Canada is 14. Rock on Fred. In the name of dirty old men everywhere we salute you brother.

Seriously, I've seen the brother and let me tell you, although not a hideous man-beast he's not exactly GQ cover matterial. Let's be honest, if not for the fact that he draws a comic that appeals to obsessive teenage girls the number of teenage girls desiring to play with his nekkid-bits would be remarkably low. So go for it Fred. Exploit the hell out of your celebrity. You owe this to ever geek out there who knows they've no chance in hell of ever scoring with a hot-bodied teen. I'm sure if you explain it to your wife that way she'll understand the importance of your duty. Hell, play your cards right and I'm sure you can work it into a threesome.

Rock on, brother, rock on!

Ghastly: What? Link! Link! Link!

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It's on the first page of this thread in the link to Rodney's response to the controversey. On there there is gossip about Fred having an affair at a convention with his former poster colourist.

Spicey and completely unsubstantiated.

Man how do I go about getting some spicey rumours spread about me and my convention hijinx? You know I was a guest at I-Con at the same time Katie Sackhoff (Starbuck in the Galactica remake) was a guest. Why hasn't anyone started a rumour that the two of us had a steamy trist. I did get to chat with her and I did see her butt crack (god bless the man who invented hip-hugger jeans). Is it so far beyond the realm of the possible that a hot up-and-coming hollywood actress would have a smoldering affair at a convention with a geeky artist who created a popular adult humour webcomic about tentacled beasties. Is it? Is it really? I could have happened. You never know. It could have.

Don't take this from me, damnit.

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It's on the first page of this thread in the link to Rodney's response to the controversey. On there there is gossip about Fred having an affair at a convention with his former poster colourist.

Spicey and completely unsubstantiated.

Man how do I go about getting some spicey rumours spread about me and my convention hijinx? You know I was a guest at I-Con at the same time Katie Sackhoff (Starbuck in the Galactica remake) was a guest. Why hasn't anyone started a rumour that the two of us had a steamy trist. I did get to chat with her and I did see her butt crack (god bless the man who invented hip-hugger jeans). Is it so far beyond the realm of the possible that a hot up-and-coming hollywood actress would have a smoldering affair at a convention with a geeky artist who created a popular adult humour webcomic about tentacled beasties. Is it? Is it really? I could have happened. You never know. It could have.

Don't take this from me, damnit.

Hahaha, awesome. Just like something out of a tabloid, only significantly less sexy!

Katie Sekelsky's picture

oh my... i detest people who follow the goings on of celebrities like it was happening to them... and yet I find this controversy so damn amusing!

of course, i'm also not following it step by step and i'm not exactly "obsessing," so i guess i'm still alright.

This controversy does make a good argument for being your own illustrator.

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And banging hot chicks at conventions.

[quote:55fcbf8b7f="Ghastly"]And banging hot chicks at conventions.

The very fact that such a thing is now possible at comic conventions shows we live in a strange new age.

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Well, I'm guessing it is only possible at manga and anime conventions.

Coventions are the natural habitat of the Attention Whore!

Which explains why there's quite a few here in Texas, no doubt. ;)

What's with Texas and anime, anyways? It seems like a disproportionate number of my readers are in Texas.

I've no earthly idea. Maybe it's the summer heat.

I've no earthly idea. Maybe it's the summer heat.

Do people actually really care about this? People take scott kurtz way too seriously
I mean really, who cares.

Megatokyo fans and Fred Ghallager do, apparantly.

People take the internet way too seriously.
Maybe it's time we invented some way that people could read and understand when people are being sarcastic or ironic.

Ah, but then you won't have hilarity like people actually thinking that Penny Arcade REALLY can and wants to have a monopoly on comics about video games.

The internet exists for funny and for making yourself feel better because you have absolute proof that there are people out there stupider and worse off than yourself.

Which is a pretty bad way to justify your life, but hey, it's the INTERNET.

I await the day when we see a news thread on comixpedia about ghastly and steamy convention rumors...we'd never see the end of the posts. This whole thing with Fred Gallagher and Scott kurtz has gotten WAY blown out of proportion thanks to Fred. I guess Comixpedia has a new entry under scott kurtz for it's contraversial people...

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I'm going to have to start my own steamy convention rumours. Saddly I don't have any convention appearances booked until later in the summer and I'm going to be on a bit of a world tour this spring. Maybe I can see if there are any comic conventions in the Middle East and India I can attend. Somehow I don't think I'll be invited to any cons in Abudhabi or Saudi Arabia.

My favorite is people actually believing a statement like: Person A actually sued Person B for money just because of the colour blue!!!. I swear, I'm almost of the opinion they actually believe this is because they WANT to believe Person A is dumber than they are.

Ironically, it pretty much reflects on the gulliblity of the believer that they swallowed such hyperbolic tripe being repeated across the net in the first place. But then, most of the great 'controversies' have always been small things blown out of proportion, the most sensational and ridiculous point seized on, the actual facts discarded and then repeated like a giant game of Telephone until they bear no resemblance to the original.

Hell, even the news article Comixpedia linked of the kids being expelled/suspended/arrested for the violent stick figure comic suffered from this syndrome. The Pulse left out some of the more important facts like those kids were using the violent stick figure comics to bully and threaten the victim.

But people will be people, and most of them will never follow up and check the facts. But honestly, you'd think the not-so-common common sense would ring a warning bell at that point. If it sounds too stupid to be true, it most likely is.

God, I sound like such a cynic now.

I think being a webcomic artist or writer just naturally does that to you. I'm not seein many people who aren't cynics or angsty

[quote:4d94dd2c5e="Phalanx"]Hell, even the news article Comixpedia linked of the kids being expelled/suspended/arrested for the violent stick figure comic suffered from this syndrome. The Pulse left out some of the more important facts like those kids were using the violent stick figure comics to bully and threaten the victim.

I wish the mean kids in my school had bullied and threatened with stick figures, as opposed to knuckles.

We used to chase the kid who was allergic to peanut butter around with our sandwiches. Now that's bullying.

Katie Sekelsky's picture

hey! that kid might have been me!

(actually, that never happened. but my friends would often flaunt their sandwhich in front of me... as thought they were tempting me with it)