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Animation Sensation

Since I've started my comic, I've started incorporating more and more animated .gif comic pages. It's something that I try to do in the more dramatic parts of the comic where waiting two days for the next update is just going to ruin the effect. The best advantage, I've found is that you can display your panels one at a time and build up suspense. I think it's worked really well.

For example:

http://flatwood.keenspace.com/d/20040726.html
The first one I ever attempted.

http://flatwood.keenspace.com/d/20040929.html
A more comlext one

http://flatwood.keenspace.com/
The Latest One

So yeah, the POINT is: I've never really seen anyone else who does this sort of thing. I know it would probably be simpler (if the person knew how) to do a flash type movie (probably be a smaller file and a better animation.)

But I was just wondering if anyone had ever run across any other comic that used animated pages and how they did theirs.

That's it.

Animation Sensation

Since I've started my comic, I've started incorporating more and more animated .gif comic pages. It's something that I try to do in the more dramatic parts of the comic where waiting two days for the next update is just going to ruin the effect. The best advantage, I've found is that you can display your panels one at a time and build up suspense. I think it's worked really well.

For example:

http://flatwood.keenspace.com/d/20040726.html
The first one I ever attempted.

http://flatwood.keenspace.com/d/20040929.html
A more comlext one

http://flatwood.keenspace.com/
The Latest One

So yeah, the POINT is: I've never really seen anyone else who does this sort of thing. I know it would probably be simpler (if the person knew how) to do a flash type movie (probably be a smaller file and a better animation.)

But I was just wondering if anyone had ever run across any other comic that used animated pages and how they did theirs.

That's it.

RE: Animation Sensation

At www.gutterflycomix.com we do a flash comic, well some of it is flash, that incorporates some effects like you are going with for the very reasons you explained. I toyed with the animated .gif technique too, but the main reason I wanted to go with flash is because animated .gif tend to not be very smooth in there animation. But I guess it would really only depend on how many transitions you put into your comic, but then your file gets huge.

I noticed too that you had a version for dial up people to look at too. We had ALOT of problems with low bandwidth people hating us and our existence when we first started out because of the flash stuff, but after bending over backward to try and accomodate them, some of which didn't care about fixes they wanted to just bitch about something, we came to the fact it is a free comic and they could just deal with the large files. We don't get bitching any more because we have chosen not to do a darn thing about complaints. But I digress, I just wanted to post letting you know there are people out there, but most of them that do any animation have migrated to using flash to do it.

Btw, nice looking comic ya got there. Keep it up, your a fav in my browser.

Thanks

Hey, Thanks.

That's what I assumed. I just know absolutely nothing about Flash and don't have enough time to learn right now. I would love to do to be able to do Flash. I really like how your comic works. Fade Ins/Outs/sound would all be awesome to have, but until I get my butt in gear, I'll just have to deal with it.

Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work.

scarfman's picture

To answer your question: I can't think of an example of someone else using animated GIFs the way you are. I doubt there aren't any, and I suspect I've seen some and don't recall, but I can't think of an example.

A piece of advice: Since your animation begins at page load instead of being prompted by the reader, your front page needs to be rearranged so the comic is at the very top of the page, in the browser window when the animation starts. When it's a pagedown away, as it is now (at least at 1024x768 it is), the reader may not find it till after it's started - or even after it's ended. Then some or all of the effects you're after are lost.

Diesel Sweeties sometimes uses animated gifs in a simlar fashion. That's the only one I could think of.

That's a pretty nice looking comic, though, I tell you what.

andrael's picture

Kid Radd used a lot of animation. It was a comic about characters in a fictional video game world, and because of the art style (simple pixel characters) and the unique composition of the strips (using HTML tricks and tiny little gifs, instead of big image files), the creator was able to have a lot of animation without needing enormous loading time. It was usually very simple or repetitive, but in the later parts of the comic he started doing increasingly complex animations for action scenes.

I don't think I've seen anybody else do entire comics as animated gifs the way you do. I've seen some comics which sometimes have a bit of animation just within a particular panel (Sluggy Freelance and 9th Elsewhere spring to mind). For that to work, though, one would kind of need to have panels. ;)

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Other then the comics i've heard of in this post i can't say i have. but eiter way it adds a very nice effect to the page and saying this again can't hurt. Nice comic.

I think Flatwood's the first comic I've come across to use animation in quite that way, and it's pretty impressive. :) I don't mind the large file-sizes: the only drawback using dial-up is that the animated gif plays slowly the first time through, while it's still loading frame-by-frame from the net. Flash animations can be set so that they don't play through until they've finished loading, but I don't know that it would be worth the expense and effort of buying and learning the software just for that point. It's certainly worth considering if you want to do other animated stuff and effects, though. Personally I haven't found it that hard to learn.

http://shmorky.com - Dave Kelly did some stuff with animated gif loops, although these were done in flash first.

Altough I think you've done something really cool and innovative, it really isn't that effecient. Flash would do a much better job of animation, the file size would be smaller, and you would have more control.

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CaveMonster's picture

Hey, lets not forget Demian5 http://www.demian5.com

Starting in chapter three of "When I am King" he begins to use animation, getting more ambitious and experimental as he goes along.

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