The Dreaded "Real" Job

spargs's picture

After a previous 11 months of working an extremely flexible job and being able to update my comic thrice weekly, circumstances have changed for me as I once again find myself working eight hours a day, five days a week. Working in front of computer all day as I do, the thought of sitting down for another couple of hours after work is bad enough, but the reality is totally unworkable for me.

So, I've chopped my update schedule back to once a week for now. Not my ideal solution, but at least I'm still updating and still close to sane.

I was wondering, what are the experiences balancing work and webcomic for all you other webcomickers out there? Is anyone working a full time job and updating more than a couple of times a week? Is it actually possible to balance regular updates, work, spouses, friends and family?

Of course, you could be one of those lucky three people whose webcomic IS their full-time job, in which case this post doesn't apply to you - please disregard.

spargs's picture

The Dreaded "Real" Job

After a previous 11 months of working an extremely flexible job and being able to update my comic thrice weekly, circumstances have changed for me as I once again find myself working eight hours a day, five days a week. Working in front of computer all day as I do, the thought of sitting down for another couple of hours after work is bad enough, but the reality is totally unworkable for me.

So, I've chopped my update schedule back to once a week for now. Not my ideal solution, but at least I'm still updating and still close to sane.

I was wondering, what are the experiences balancing work and webcomic for all you other webcomickers out there? Is anyone working a full time job and updating more than a couple of times a week? Is it actually possible to balance regular updates, work, spouses, friends and family?

Of course, you could be one of those lucky three people whose webcomic IS their full-time job, in which case this post doesn't apply to you - please disregard.

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timdemeter's picture

Ungh. There's no good answer to this.

I work full-time and update two comic book sized pages a week. (Not to say cry for me my pages are bigger, but the fact is there is more line milage on a page than a strip, so it takes longer.)

What I do, is man-up. When I get home from work, I sit down and work some more, but on my comic. Getting into this groove was kind of a chore, but once I did I find it a great release after a day full of working for the man. This leaves my weekends open for, you know, having a life. It's worth noting I'm single and live alone so that makes things a lot easier, I can see where coming home to a spouse and kids you want to spend time with too, could throw a wrench in the works.

I also work on pages at lunch while at work because I'm a designer and have all the software here and cart my stuff around on a firewire drive.

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bobweiner's picture

I work full-time, go to school (finishing up that M.F.A. in Animation), have a wife, freelance as an illustrator and videographer, and manage a webcomic. There are days where I feel incredibly burned out - actually yesterday was one of those days, as a matter of fact. While I normally update 3-times a week, there are times where I've scaled back down to 2 a week, just to preserve my sanity. Regular readers will understand, and have, in the past, been very supportive.

The best way to handle work, webcomics, and family is to get yourself organized. It sounds cliche, but I write down everything I want to realistically accomplish each day and set about completing it. I keep a small spiral-bound notebook that has my list. When I finish something on that list, I cross it off and move on to the next item.

Unfortunately, most people can't schedule their creativity (me definitely included). This is why, in my little spiral bound notebook, in addition to the To-Do lists, I jot down ideas as I happen to think them up throughout the day. That way, when time frees up in the evening, I can look over my ideas and start drawing. Once I've come up with a 'toon that fits the idea I cross it off and move on to the next one. The best way to manage regular updates is to work several toons in advance, by keeping a buffer (ideally, I like to have at least 4 strips in the buffer at the very least). Having a deep toon buffer helped me tremendously while I had to divert a majority of time to my freelance videography gig.

What I've described works best for me. That said, I'm dropping down to a two-a-week toon schedule starting next week, to replenish my toon buffer (which is now '0').

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lucastds's picture

Wife, kid, full-time job... I'm updating 5 days a week.

My secret? I can't draw.

Makes updates sooooooooo much easier.

My advice to others? Learn to undraw. :)

Chris_C.'s picture

I work 50+ hours a week and update two comics, one 5 days a week and the other 3 days a week. It basically means that I don't get to bed before 1AM everynight and it'll probably kill me sooner or later. Oh well....

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jdalton's picture

Spargs, I feel for you and identify with you. I work in social work and spend 8 to 10 hours a day 5 days a week tending to the woes of my fellow man. When I get home, I have an active two year old and beautiful wife to entertain. When I started my comic, my goal was to update three times a week. I'm usually lucky if I can update once a month. I really want to put more time in, but my job usually requires 110% of me and my family requires what ever else I can muster. For me, devoting time to my art is important, but my job pays the bills and my family is my heart. So how do I balance things? I do the best I can and post when I'm able. I envy people who are in a creative field so they can at least express themselves on a daily basis in addition to their webcomics. The few hours a week I get at my table are precious. Enjoy what time you have and don't kill yourself. Treasure what you do and make use of what ever extra time you get.

usher
www.fallenangelscomix.blogspot.com

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Fabricari's picture

I've always worked 40-50 hours, and would just cut back on the sleep. I read somewhere on the internets that you only need 4 hours. I tried to stop drawing altogether for a couple years, and the depression drove my wife made. She'd rather deal with an over-tired cantankerous asshole than a depressed jerk. So now I wait til after the kid goes to sleep, and I draw like a mad man. I also gave up on perfect art (or trying to make it so) and just do the best I can in the time I've got. That's key. At the moment I do three updates a week. Each being a half comic page. (Although, I just issued a challenge in my blog to folks reading the comic, that if they can help me break that next milestone in traffic, I'll post 5 days a week.)

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Dutch!'s picture

I teach 26 odd kids each day and update a strip three times a week. I've just finished writing their end of year reports over the last three weeks which has bitten into a bit of time. Add to that outside influences like cricket matches and watching the kids play basketball every now and then and I'm glad I do four panel strips.

I found a groove fairly early and worked out a style that I think suits the strip while at the same time has been developed to a point where I can average a completed strip in between 1 1/2 to 2 hours from go to whoa. Work quick, work well, and the readers will come.

Two out of three ain't bad, eh?

At least the kids in the classroom like reading the printed comics I've put in the room though.

John's picture

Re: The Dreaded "Real" Job

You might want to check out this thread for some time management tips. It's for writers who want to become professional authors, but it's got some tips that you can take with you to writing. The bottom line is, you make the time and you force yourself to find two hours in each day to work on the comic. It doesn't matter what you do, as long as for that two hours every day, your not doing anything else. You have to make hard decisions (what's more important. Watching Law & Order or doing your two hours?), probably have to cut back on how much sleep you get (waking up two hours earlier before work), but you'll get it done. There'll be days where you don't want to draw/write/color. You'll very likely get sick a lot. But you have a choice. Do you want to become a professional webcomic creator? Or do you want your comic to go on permanent hiatus?

I'm not in a situation where that's necessary for me. But I thought it might help a bit. As for me, if I can't make an update, it's a bit of tough luck. My university is much more important. But that isn't anything like your situation.

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LineItemVito's picture

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The comments that suggest you manage your time and work fast are correct. But, whatever you do, keep quality over quantity. If you have to drop back to publishing only once a month so you can still produce a comic you're proud of, then do it.

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Fabricari's picture

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[quote:53c534c6bc="LineItemVito"]The comments that suggest you manage your time and work fast are correct. But, whatever you do, keep quality over quantity. If you have to drop back to publishing only once a month so you can still produce a comic you're proud of, then do it.

I went the quality over quantity rought for almost a decade, and while I have a few pieces I'm proud of, most people don't know they exist. Since I've switched to focus on speed, I've enjoyed a much greater readership.

I used to post a page once every 2 weeks and it was like screaming in an empty hall. No one cared.

Also, when you draw fast, you're drawing more. Which translates to learning more. I first read Dave Sim say this: Get good, get fast, then get good and fast.

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Ghastly's picture

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Work as a musician so most of my work is done late at night, in bars, where I get free beer.

This leaves the days free for sleeping it off and doing webcomics. I think I squeeze some time with the wife and kids in there somewhere too.

Coydog's picture

RE: Re: The Dreaded "Real" Job

I do freelance graphic design, portraiture, cartooning and illustration besides putting out three installments of UNA Frontiers weekly. In the summer I work on the streets in tourist venues, at fairs and at flea markets. I have gotten to know the local street life a lot more than I'd like (watching crazy, aggressive panhandlers and fourteen-year-old runaways getting strung out, drug dealers, prostitutes, brawling drunks, etc. ) On the plus side, I set my own hours and can tell obnoxious people off.

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KrazyKrow's picture

I'm an engineer working 60 hours a week, and I manage two full-colour pages a week. When work goes to 70 hours a week, I end up missing an update or two.

My usual routine is to do the pencils on the weekend. Over the week, I'll either ink a page, or colour a page. It's a matter of making time for the comic, I stopped playing video games, and I watch less tv than I used to.

spargs's picture

Thanks guys, there are some great suggestions in there. Some of them I already use (a notebook for ideas) and others I know I SHOULD use (spend an allotted time per day on the comic, keep a buffer, etc). I'll add these to my New Year's Resolutions ...

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