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So, Webcomics?

Seems to be an awful lot of dialogue here about Drupal and the sort. But not so much about webcomics.

With the WCCA Nominations I figure everyone would be goin to bat for their favorites this year. Or is that faux pas? Editorial silence in the house?

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[quote]What I do think is missing is that creators of lesser known but quality work need to plan on how to get noticed if they care about the awards. Doing nothing about it and then complaining about it isn't really going to do much about it. [/quote]
That was pretty much my plan. I even forgot to nominate myself before the nomination round ended. Guess that means I'm not gonna win anything again this year, huh? I really had my eye on that backgrounds category...

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Xaviar Xerexes's picture

Well seriously - I think webcomics with smaller audiences need a plan if they really want to be recognized at the various award programs. There's just too much material out there now and lesser known webcomics may not get a fair look if they don't have a plan to get their material in front of the voters for an award.

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Too true

Brad Hawkins's picture

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Heh

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Tongue out

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Xaviar XerexesÂ

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Honestly? I think the era of

The William G's picture

Honestly?

I think the era of being able to to something like this properly is long over. As you said, there's just too much out there now. And as Joe Zabel brought to our attentions recently, they've whole-heartedly followed the course of becoming insular online kingdoms. So anyone from, say, The People's Republic Of Dumbrella, isn't likely to be aware of, let alone vote for, something from Lower Eyeskreamia.

 The WCCAs are attempting to do something all inclusive in a creative world where the fans and creators strive for both exclusivity and medium domination.

It's kinda like print comics, now that I think of it.

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I would disagree with

Xaviar Xerexes's picture

I would disagree with that. Just b/c everyone who creates a webcomic doesn't want to sit around singing kumbyah with each other doesn't make recognizing quality irrelevant. It does make it harder, but it's commonsense and practical for creators to recognize that and do their part in the process - if they're interested.

We had a thread on the fact that for many awards you have to actually submit your work to get considered. (I think that was about the Eisner nominations) It's unrealistic to expect awards to be omniscient about everything that exists.

Also just b/c everyone doesn't agree with the results of an award program doesn't make it worthless - each one is what it is and I still think the WCCAs, for example, are a very worthy effort. What I do think is missing is that creators of lesser known but quality work need to plan on how to get noticed if they care about the awards. Doing nothing about it and then complaining about it isn't really going to do much about it.Â

That ain't different from movies, or music to pick two other areas. Would it be nice if the Oscars or Grammies recognized more quality indy work? Sure but it's not a common thing - in fact indies have gotten recognition only when they've been savvy about the award process (like Miramax for example). Â

How would I be savvy about the WCCAs? Well I think that's a good topic - maybe worth it's own thread to kick around.Â

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Xaviar XerexesÂ

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Well said Xaviar.  Seth A.

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Well said Xaviar.Â

 

Seth A. Fronzoli

Infinite Canvas

The only comic I know of that deserves to win infinite canvas is Synchronicity.

It's the only comic actually making use of the way the Internet works. Sites like Merlism basically use the net to make comics harder to read. 5 Ways to Love a Cockroach isn't a very dissimilar experience from a regular webcomic, in my opinion.

While I don't agree that

While I don't agree that Merlin makes comics harder to read (The whole point is to make infinite canvases easier to read--and I think he succeeds.), I do also very much like what Synchronicity is doing. She will definitely be in my list of nominees.

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The infinite canvas category

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The infinite canvas category is one of those that make little sense to me in its narrow definition. A bit like a category for outstanding comic inked with a brush. It would probably be better served as a category for experimental presentation, into which the flash category probably could be put as well.

But then again these kind of thoughts come up every year of the WCCA so I guess there are people who like many categories as opposed to my more minimalistic approach.

I would also very much like

I would also very much like to see the infinite canvas and the Flash categories combined into some sort of "Best Use of Web Technology," or something like that. Not only because there just aren't that many comics using these techniques, making the nomination field pretty small, but also because when a comic comes out with a technique that doesn't fit these precise categories, there's nowhere for them to go. Synchronicity, for instance--it's definitely not Flash, but it's not quite infinite canvas either, though that's the closest approximation. It would be nice if comics like that had a category they could fit into unambiguously.

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It has been quiet lately

Xaviar Xerexes's picture

This is a good topic though - I'll front page it and see if we can get more participation!Â

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Xaviar XerexesÂ

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I can't nominate because I

I can't nominate because I am not a cartoonist :(

More Nomination Love

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I'd like to see more gamer comic love for Commissioned.

And one beautiful adventure comic, Skullcano Island: Marooned.

Dan Kim's Penny Tribute or Kanami should be considered for best black and white art.

And cannot forget 5 Ways to Love a Cockroach for infinite canvas.

Best character art: The Bean Men!

Steve "Fabricari" Harrison

I don't know about anyone

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I don't know about anyone else but the summer is an incredibly busy time for me, and it's difficult to give the WCCA the attention it deserves. Some works I'd like to see nominated in some category or other:

Popcorn Picnic

Healing Hands

Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

Girl Genius

Little Dee

Nathan Castle’s Nude Rollerdisco of Comics.

On the Rocks

Nahast: Lands of Strife

Derik A. Badman’s Maroon

Overcompensating

Count Your Sheep

shigabooks.com

Salamander Dreams

Gunnerkrigg Court

Surely Functional

5ideways

A Softer World

Perfect Stars

 

haha, I like how "Derik A

haha, I like how "Derik A Badman" is the only creator mentioned in your list, in a "who cares abou who made these other comics... this Badman guy is someone to look for." way.

 

And he's in the middle too, so it's not like you got lazy after doing a long list of creator/comic titles. Nope, he's in a position that lets everyone know you had a very particular interest in mentioning his name, that you were perfectly capable of mentioning everyone else's name but still didn't bother.

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